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Getting rid of those pesky ‘incentives’

Now it’s the EPA. And this should be great news for those who drive cars with the start/stop technology.

EPA administrator Lee Zeldin blasted stop-start systems in a post Monday on X, signaling that the agency would take action against it.

“Start/stop technology: where your car dies at every red light so companies get a climate participation trophy,” Zeldin said. “EPA approved it, and everyone hates it, so we’re fixing it.”

The big picture: The EPA doesn’t mandate stop-start technology, but it provides extra fuel economy credits to automakers that adopt it.

Although some argue that this crap-tech can be turned off, it’s difficult, is defaulted to ‘on’ in a lot of vehicles, and some cars won’t let it be turned off.

From Not the Bee.

The average driver might save $1,000 over a decade of using the vehicle if they live in an urban area with frequent stops, but Enhanced Flooded Batteries and heavy-duty starters also cost more, meaning maintenance swallows up much or all of their savings.

(They also have to put up with the psychological torture of having their car turn off and on every five seconds.)

Incentives are the taxpayer funded gateway drug/carrot/kickback to industry used to create compliance with things that aren’t mandated in order to increase profits (if kickbacks can be factored in to profit, which I think they are).

And, as always, taxpayers get the shaft for money not-well-spent.



13 responses to “Getting rid of those pesky ‘incentives’”

  1. “Climate participation trophy”- good stuff. I’m glad I’m not the only one who has always figured that the auto off/on thing was a solution looking for a problem. What a joke. I guarantee the replacement cost of such a specialized starter and associated electronics would far exceed any supposed “savings”. It’s virtue signaling in mechanical form. Refreshing to see evidence of people in government agencies using their brains. Wonder how long it’ll last.

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  2. Went looking for a new car 6 years ago and found out about that autooffstop crap.
    Any car that had that was OFF my list……..

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  3. Bought a $99 device on Amazon. Took about 10 minutes to install. Now the auto stop function is always off.

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  4. TRoy–I do like Zeldin’s turn of phrase and he seems to ‘get it’.

    Matthew–My car doesn’t have it, thankfully. I know someone whose car does and it drives me bonkers. I traded in a car because I couldn’t turn off traction control without a 42 step process which meant I couldn’t power through snowdrifts.

    John–Nice!! Didn’t know such a thing existed!

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  5. I just spent over $1000 for repairs on my 22 year old SUV and aside from regular maintenance like tires, oil changes etc. it has been a faithful servant since it was purchased in ’04. I’m not buying a Nannymobile ever. Suck it DotGov.

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  6. What’s wrong with allowing the free market to determine what consumers want and don’t want? The last time that I bought an American car, the only options that I chose were a full sized, spare tire and an upgraded suspension and a tow package. That car lasted me 240,000 miles with no unexpected repairs before I sold it. The V8 engine although consuming more gas than a six-cylinder, never had any repair issues. The same went for the beefed up transmission.

    The same could be said for the gas boiler I installed in my house 30 years ago. It is a cast-iron boiler with no fancy paperthin, but efficient heat exchangers. It uses a bit more gas to heat the house, but I wanted reliability. I expect it to last for 20 more years before it gives out. This is the type of gas appliance that the Biden administration was trying to eliminate.
    My time and the convenience, of not having a boiler break down (always at 5he most inconvenient time), is worth a lot more to me than a few extra dollars in gas spent.

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  7. Rented a Nissan Rogue that had the Auto stall device. Agent turned it off for me and showed how to disable it when restarting the car. Three cylinders and a cruddy cruise control as well.

    A big Nope when looking to replace the CRV with 275K miles.

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  8. The latest is cars and trucks which won’t move unless you are seat belted in. I’m old enough to remember when that was tried the last time, and the public outcry was enough to have it removed.

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  9. Much like the ‘freebies’ for EVs on the HOV lanes, when they actually do MORE damage due to their hard tires to the road surface than the big SUVs.

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  10. Another “panic” feature of the device is that most cars have the fuel pump inside the fuel tank and if the pump runs dry due to low/no fuel (which acts as a lubricant) then the pump is damaged.

    Replacing the pump is NOT cheap as usually the back end of the vehicle has to be dismantled to get to the pump.

    So when the engine switches off, it’s panic mode. I’ll keepmy year 2000 Subaru, thanks very much.

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  11. WDS–I drove my first car for 17 years and would probably still be driving it if a deer hadn’t committed suicide on it. My now-car is as minimal as you can get on electronics.

    Jay–Agree. But that’s not how government thinks.

    Gerry–Agree.

    stevesky–The frog is boiled when people accept that.

    NFO–That pesky science again…

    Phil B–Yeek! I don’t know if mine has that or not but I seldom get below half a tank.

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  12. Yeah… that technology is SUPER popular here in SW FL. Especially when your sitting at a stop light in the summer when it’s 98 degrees out… and the light takes a full eight minutes to change from red to green. And yes, the light where 31 (Babcock Ranch Road) intersects Palm Beach Blvd in Ft. Myers Shores takes a FULL EIGHT MINUTES (I have TIMED it its so absurd).

    If you left your KID in a car here that long in summer without the air on you would be ARRESTED.

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    1. boneman–The government doesn’t make sense. It’ll be nice to have that tech go bye-bye.

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