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A sincere question from a left-leaning occasional reader:Do you guys actually believe this Haïtians-eating-pets thing — actually believe that this is happening in real life — or do you just keep posting memes about it because it's funny while realizing that it isn't actually true, the way we do with the Vance-shagging-sofas thing?Genuinely curious.

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Infidel753–I appreciate the question and I'll give you a straight answer. I think the truth is a little more complex. What the memes do is continue to put the spotlight on the problem of flying people from other countries and plopping them in large numbers (aka colonies) into existing communities. These people do not assimilate and do not follow our existing social norms. Additionally THEIR social norms DO include eating animals that we consider to be protected–park animals such as ducks and geese as well as cats and dogs. And no one is telling them that they can't do that here and there are no consequences for violating our social norms for this population. The people that try to bring these issues public are getting excoriated.I have seen enough videos and read enough accounts as well as reading enough to develop an understanding of the origin cultures and religions that I think that it is plausible and very likely is happening. I keep posting the memes to keep the issue of our federal government creating this problem out there. I am also an animal lover and a realist. By realist, I mean that I understand that there are cultural differences and some are not compatible with ours. So the short answer is that it's likely enough that the memes hit home.On the other side, we know the left can't meme. 😉 The sofa thing was an outright lie (I do own the book), which makes that meme ineffective even if some find them funny. The memes in question that I'm posting are because the issue is possible and they are illustrative of a larger issue.I hope this clarifies my personal position on the matter–I absolutely cannot speak for anyone else.

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Do you genuinely believe it isn't happening, considering real, no shit cannibalism is known to be occuring right now in Haiti? Or that these people don't come from a culture where animals are used for ritual sacrifice? Or Haiti isn't one of the most dysfunctional third world hellholes in existence, and certainly in this hemisphere? Because irrespective of your apparent disbelief and denial of observable reality, taking Haitians out of Haiti doesn't magically change them, they bring their established culture and behavior with them. And among those habits includes stripping of natural resources (including wildlife) out of desperation, or for ritual use, which eventually becomes habitual. Look at satellite imagery of Hispaniola and note the Haiti side is barren of any mature trees, and yet the Dominican Republic side isn't. That island is a perfect demonstration in how demographics equalô⁸s destiny. Two distinct peoples on one island, and the contrast couldn't be more obvious. The take away is that Haiti is a disaster because it's people are a disaster. And that has been the case for 200 years since Haitians gained full control of the place (slaughtering those they deposed in the process).Yes, I'll guarantee you that wild animals, and probably a few domesticated ones as well, are being picked o off by these new arrivals, whether or not it gets officially reported. Because that's what they did where they came from. Now, here's a question for you: how do these people get driver's licenses (or even just cars they operate – often poorly and dangerously – without a license), because they are driving and causing wrecks, when they have no business doing so, having not proven their proficiency at operating a car on the road to the standards required of a licensed operator. Because that is observably happening also. And yet I'll bet because it goes unreported (and likely never will be, no matter how bad it becomes) by a media source you favor (one that indulges your biases, that is) you'll deny that is happening as well. Tunnel vision via always self reinforcing ones beliefs creates blind spots a mile wide. There are scores of people who are in constant denial about how bad things really are. Some continue to to deny reality even when they come face to face with it. I hope you are reasonable enough not to act that way, but I'm genuinely curious if you can make that jump.

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Big Ruckus–Thank you for your thoughtful answer as well as brining up the drivers license issue. Yep, these arrivals, brought here by our government, are just being handed drivers licenses without having to go through any testing, including knowledge of English and road signage, or testing of motor vehicle operation. And they are killing people and causing property damage. That is also the fault of both their culture (they don't care) and our government letting them run amok.JohnD–Big Ruckus handled the part I didn't, so thanks to him. And I agree that accepting as truth what is touted by the journalism majors is definitely going to lead someone astray.

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Where to start? First, you use exceptionally favorable terms to describe Haiti. It is a place that any first world native would find a living hell to exist in. The people of Haiti may well find it a living hell, if they are self aware enough to recognize how bad their situation really is. Sugar coating it with platitudes, or appeals to your own expertise to claim otherwise (which “expertise” will undoubtedly be colored by how you wish to perceive things, rather than how they truly are) is a non-starter. You can deny the reality all you wish, as it offends your tender sensibilities in wishing to appear virtuous to those of like mind too much to admit otherwise. It carries no weight with me. Moreover, you completely gloss over the known cultural attributes of Haitians and the fact they are fundamentally incompatible with the prevailing culture of America, Which brings me to the point that you conveniently ignore. You cannot import a number of culturally dissimilar people into a place where they instantly become one half or even quarter of the total population of said place, without extreme deleterious effects. Crime is just the most obvious and immediate Impact. There is the acute shortage of housing created (and the economic impact on housing costs thereof), the overrunning of schools with those who cannot even speak or read the language in many cases. There is the impact on employment, where the rightful existing population is disenfrachised in favor of the newly arrived, because they will work cheaply and bunk 20 to a house, which are not conditions legitimate Americans will, or should, be willing to operate under. These are nothing more than straight up colonization programs with massive financial benefits to NGO's and those in the related food chain (transportation, housing/construction, etc.) to profit from, but ruinous to everyone else impacted. This is tantamount to the collective rape of the native population for a place like Springfield, OH. The people who live there didn't vote for this to be dropped in their laps. They don't want or need this, and it is beyond galling to see pathologically altruistic, arrogant fools – as you seem to be – making endless excuses telling them to suck it up, that the problems they are suffering as a result of this invasion are either non-existent, or that they just need to suck it up and deal with it. Just who in the hell are you – or any other outsider – to tell them that? If you are so enamored of these invasive imports that you will defend against every single unfavorable assertion made about them, why aren't they taking over your town, inundating housing in your town, straining your civic resources, causing car accidents and property damage on your street, edging out your kids for resources in your school district, and generally making a nuisance of themselves on your doorstep? Yes, I think we know the answer to that, and can be fairly certain it will go unacknowledged here, because what are you going to say to defend what is being done to these places selected for the forcible cultural and demographic remaking of towns all over the country.

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Infidel–I concur with everything that Big Ruckus said (thank you BRD–I owe you the beverage of your choice). He's spot on with his statements. To address a couple of your points directly–Republican or not, the elected and appointed officials of Springfield sold out their people. Of course they are covering their asses–they got busted. Additionally there is a direct correlation between the pet-eating in Springfield and the culture of those who are doing it–to think overwise is pure denial (and to dismiss the cannibalism in Haiti when there is video proof, denial as well).The Haitians in Springfield are not legal–they are 'protected' whatever the hell that means. The program by which they are getting flown into our country is patently illegal, so, by the fruit of the tree, they are as well.And yes, they are getting driver's permits and licenses as part of the program that brought them here. The feds are suing states to give them licenses (it happened in Indiana) And they are killing people. Additionally, check out my post from Monday the 16th and watch the video of a Haitian terrorizing a little girl.Infidel–I do appreciate your honest question and I do appreciate BRD for laying it out better than I can. But from your response, you need to do some critical thinking and don't automatically dismiss the evidence or believe governments officials who have every reason to lie.

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BRD–Well, drink or no, your comments were appreciated. I think in addition to disavowing the results of their actions, for some, like Infidel, there is a denial that anything so horrific could be happening. It's a lack of an understanding of the world outside their sphere.

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Has 15-20K clones of JD Vance been imported into your left-leaning town?

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Disparity Flux–I do think that Infidel was being sincere with the question. I get your point, but please no personal attacks. I have crafted a response below.

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Kudos to you, Midwest Chick. I think it was a sincere question, and you had a perfect answer. I think most of us have more or less the same values, but a lot of people accept as truth what the 4 year journalism majors say on TV. Consequently they are led astray. JohnD

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Midwest Chick: Thanks for the response. I think I understand where you're coming from on this.Big Ruckus: I know more about Haïti than you may realize. While it is obviously a backward and primitive country, claims of cannibalism being practiced there are widespread, but apparently unfounded. In any case, my question was about right-wing beliefs concerning claims of pet-eating in Springfield MO.I do know that the city and county officials there (Republicans) have flat-out denied that any such pet-eating has happened, and have called on Trump and Vance to stop pushing such stories. I know that the Haïtians in Springfield are legal residents, so this has nothing to do with illegal immigration. I have not heard anything about the issuing of driver's licenses to unqualified immigrants, but it seems to me unlikely that a Republican-dominated state government would be doing that.

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(continued, as I exceed the allowable comment length)We all witnessed what happened when a couple of bus loads were sent to Martha's Vineyard. Leftists are the most haughty, arrogant hypocrites in the known universe. Always telling others what is good for them (by the sole determination of the authoritarian leftist, naturally) but never demonstrating a willingness to “eat their own cooking”. And it just passes over them like water over a ducks back, so completely self absorbed in their limitless pathological altruism they've convinced themselves they are the be all and end all of moral rectitude to which no challenge can place so much as a chink in their armor. Well, how dare you make such decisions, or even lend support to them, with no regard for the impact on others. Finally I'll address your invoking “republicans” denial of the issues in play as some sort of validation tactic. To begin with, most Republicans are dissembling, useless, milquetoast sellouts who are more concerned with promulgating the right kind of public image than they are with doing the right thing. Second, appealing to such disingenuous scum is a worthless tactic, as I do not recognize that they hold any legitimacy, and know that they lie outright because they have reasons and incentives to. Therefore, citing their statements (but only when they comport with your own purposes) is a transparently self serving cop out. Having said all that, I'm certain I've wasted my time and effort at debating in good faith. But a full airing of the underlying facts needed to take place.

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Midwest Chick, you're quite welcome, and no drink required. Although, those who are are congenitally incapable of seeing beyond their own ideological slant, leading them to make any excuse (no matter how ridiculous and implausible) to deny what is happening are going to drive us all to drink. The exchange between infidel and I perfectly encapsulates the way leftists evade any real debate over their beliefs, and how they so blithely disclaim any responsibility for the damaging outcome of the policies they force on the rest of us, all while putting on an air of superiority with a side of smarmy “tough shit, you deserve it”. Is it any wonder we despise them?

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