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WTF UNC faculty?

 Saw this over at Firehand’s place and decided to expound a little more.

In today’s installment of how to give higher education another black eye:  some faculty at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill have decided to try their hand at blackmail.  The university declines to name them but over 760 UNC faculty and staff signed a petition calling for amnesty for students, faculty, and staff who were arrested or suspended.

Their goal:  the re-instatement of fifteen suspended students who got froggy at the Pro-Hamas protests on campus.

Their method: Punishing the rest of the student body by withholding grades for the semester (or at least those students who were unlucky enough to have these asshats as instructors).

But here’s a pretty huge disconnect that these faculty don’t seem to realize because they are ignorant of the ramifications of their actions.  As pointed out by the Chancellor of UNC, NR grades will prevent students from graduating, will prevent them from going up in classification (Sophomore to Junior for example), will jeopardize their athletic eligibility with the NCAA, will impede their progress by preventing registration into classes if the NR graded class was a pre-req, could impact job searches and graduate school applications.  Additionally, NR grades might automatically flip to ‘F’s if they are not resolved within a certain timeframe or stay on the student record forever.  

Can you imagine if all of a particular student’s instructors are participating in this?  The student would have an entire semester of NRs.  Which does not look good.

From the Federalist:

In a joint statement to The Federalist, UNC-Chapel Hill Provost Chris Clemens and Graduate School Dean Beth Mayer-Davis confirmed the anonymous report posted on X.

“We are hearing concerns from students whose instructors have informed them they will withhold grades as part of a protest,” they said. “These students depend on the timely submission of their grades for graduation, jobs, and athletic eligibility, and it is part of the required duties of all faculty and graduate TAs to submit grades by the registrar deadlines.”

The administrators said, “The provost’s office will support sanctions for any instructor who is found to have improperly withheld grades, but [it] is our hope we can resolve this matter amicably and without harm to students.”

UNC faced immediate controversy over faculty threats to withhold grades in solidarity with pro-Palestinian demonstrators, with users on X demanding officials fire instructors participating in the pressure campaign. The school refused to reveal the names of those involved.

I hope that UNC’s ‘solution’ is not to cave to this stupidity.  They can fire the lot of them and access to the Learning Management System to pull grades from there and enter them.  They can also choose to just give everyone a passing grade or a pass/no pass (which has its own headaches and is not optimal).

I’d imagine that the students affected by this attempted blackmail would have actionable cause, especially if they are not allowed to graduate and thus miss out on jobs, or if they can’t do internships or lose their athletic eligibility.  Ideally, they should be able to sue the faculty members individually.



  1. Unless, and until the faculty members are held accountable, (demotion, firing, etc) this shit will continue. Until they are forced to realize and accept that they are, at the base, employees of the University and have to act accordingly, this stupid shit will continue. Way too many professors are overpaid entitled little prima donnas….But that is academia in general.

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  2. Seems like (not being a lawyer and all) that those students might have some kind of Breach of Contract to get their expensive tuition back.Since they did what they were required to do and the University didn't give them their earned grades.

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  3. Since American universities are shit holes of leftism, just close them all down. Fuck it, fuck them, and fuck everyone working for or paying tuition to any of them. It has to happen, because there is no way to fix what is wrong with the entire system of higher education from the ground up now. Those present at the moment of collapse will just have to deal with the bad fortune of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Shit happens, better luck next life. What almost everyone fails to recognize is that when corrupted systems are allowed to run out of control all the way to their point of collapse, there is no orderly unwinding or polite, easy resolution. It's nasty business, and it hurts. People get screwed (and even killed in large numbers) and that's just how it is. Coulda, shoulda, woulda done things differently if they'd only known in advance how bad it would turn out. But everyone follows the momentum and benefits off the inertia until it finally runs out. They just can't contemplate ending the scams and bullshit well before the inflection point, when the consequences could be managed. Just gotta run it all balls to the wall, all the time. And then when the bill comes due, they want to piss and moan. Same as it ever was. Humanity, near as I can tell, is incapable of learning and acting on such fundamental truths. Which is too bad, we could save ourselves a lot of misery otherwise.

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  4. Gotta agree with B on this one!

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  5. B–I do agree. And the fact that the faculty have no idea about the full ramifications of their actions is just par for the course.KurtP–I think they are in breach, considering it's deliberate. But unless the individual faculty member gets the metaphorical hammer, then lawsuits won't teach a lesson.BigRuckus–I don't want to paint with that broad a brush. Accountability does need to be re-established, however.NFO–Indeed! Me too.

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  6. The unwillingness to paint with that broad of a brush doesn't matter at this stage, which was the entire overarching point I was making. The failure to have restrained and reversed the degradation of the universities has guaranteed their destruction, because they are no longer fit for purpose. Neither you nor I has any choice in the matter now, the die is cast. But then that is generally true of all major American institutions; education, the government, all the major organized religions, and most corporations. They are all riven through with the cancer of a lazy and conciliatory populace that craves the easy and stylish means of maintaining the status quo over doing the right thing, difficult and unappealing as it may be. No one wanted to be “mean” and do the hard work of punishing subversive idiots who were screwing things up way back when these institutions might have been salvaged from their ruination. No matter now though, the opportunity to have staved off such a disaster has long since passed us by, and the unwillingness to act when the course might have been corrected means we will be left with a violently uncomfortable unwinding of it all. Apparently, the crushing collapse of it all is the cure for what ails us. So be it.

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  7. Sounds like a criminal offense called 'extortion' to me.CC

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  8. Unless, and until the faculty members are held accountable, (demotion, firing, etc) this shit will continue. Until they are forced to realize and accept that they are, at the base, employees of the University and have to act accordingly, this stupid shit will continue. Way too many professors are overpaid entitled little prima donnas….But that is academia in general.

    Like

  9. Seems like (not being a lawyer and all) that those students might have some kind of Breach of Contract to get their expensive tuition back.Since they did what they were required to do and the University didn't give them their earned grades.

    Like

  10. Since American universities are shit holes of leftism, just close them all down. Fuck it, fuck them, and fuck everyone working for or paying tuition to any of them. It has to happen, because there is no way to fix what is wrong with the entire system of higher education from the ground up now. Those present at the moment of collapse will just have to deal with the bad fortune of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Shit happens, better luck next life. What almost everyone fails to recognize is that when corrupted systems are allowed to run out of control all the way to their point of collapse, there is no orderly unwinding or polite, easy resolution. It's nasty business, and it hurts. People get screwed (and even killed in large numbers) and that's just how it is. Coulda, shoulda, woulda done things differently if they'd only known in advance how bad it would turn out. But everyone follows the momentum and benefits off the inertia until it finally runs out. They just can't contemplate ending the scams and bullshit well before the inflection point, when the consequences could be managed. Just gotta run it all balls to the wall, all the time. And then when the bill comes due, they want to piss and moan. Same as it ever was. Humanity, near as I can tell, is incapable of learning and acting on such fundamental truths. Which is too bad, we could save ourselves a lot of misery otherwise.

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  11. Gotta agree with B on this one!

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  12. B–I do agree. And the fact that the faculty have no idea about the full ramifications of their actions is just par for the course.KurtP–I think they are in breach, considering it's deliberate. But unless the individual faculty member gets the metaphorical hammer, then lawsuits won't teach a lesson.BigRuckus–I don't want to paint with that broad a brush. Accountability does need to be re-established, however.NFO–Indeed! Me too.

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  13. The unwillingness to paint with that broad of a brush doesn't matter at this stage, which was the entire overarching point I was making. The failure to have restrained and reversed the degradation of the universities has guaranteed their destruction, because they are no longer fit for purpose. Neither you nor I has any choice in the matter now, the die is cast. But then that is generally true of all major American institutions; education, the government, all the major organized religions, and most corporations. They are all riven through with the cancer of a lazy and conciliatory populace that craves the easy and stylish means of maintaining the status quo over doing the right thing, difficult and unappealing as it may be. No one wanted to be “mean” and do the hard work of punishing subversive idiots who were screwing things up way back when these institutions might have been salvaged from their ruination. No matter now though, the opportunity to have staved off such a disaster has long since passed us by, and the unwillingness to act when the course might have been corrected means we will be left with a violently uncomfortable unwinding of it all. Apparently, the crushing collapse of it all is the cure for what ails us. So be it.

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  14. Sounds like a criminal offense called 'extortion' to me.CC

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