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NC county bans fluoride in its water supply

 Since the EPA apparently has ‘higher priorities’ and is in a court battle regarding fluoridation of water, it’s up to individual counties and maybe states to take action.

And the folks in NC make some good arguments regarding their decision to stop poisoning their water.

Such as:

a 2019 study in JAMA Pediatrics that said, “maternal exposure to higher levels of fluoride during pregnancy was associated with lower IQ scores in children aged 3 to 4 years. These findings indicate the possible need to reduce fluoride intake during pregnancy.”

and

Commissioner David Williams argued that people should have the right to choose what goes in their drinking water.

“There are a number of chemicals that get added to the water, but those chemicals are added to treat the water itself to make it safe to drink in some cases, to remove or address odor concerns or drinkability,” Williams said, according to NC Newsline.

“You know none of those other chemicals are added to the water to treat us. Fluoride is the one exception. Fluoride is added to the water to treat us, and I think that should give us pause,” he added.

and as pointed out here:

If your kid accidentally swallows toothpaste…you’re supposed to call poison control because of the flouride.

And here’s the big quote:

 “Should this board ignore consent by putting a substance in the water that is for dental or medicinal benefit? Are we not at least in a sense mandating medication for the public?”

And there it is.  It’s only a step away from mandating other medical substances. 



  1. “If your kid accidentally swallows toothpaste”Whoever wrote that was lying. Just 'cause it's posted on the internet doesn't make it true. THe rest of the articles you posted are mostly correct, if biased

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  2. 'Course, you COULD go look on a tube of toothpaste. On which you will find an instruction that says if you swallow more than is usually used on a toothbrush, contact a poison control center or physician. So, as usual, the dose makes the poison- it depends on how much you swallow whether it's a problem or not. You're BOTH wrong!Just in passing- the LD50 for sodium fluoride is between 31 and 102 mg/kg (in rats, it's not ethical to poison kids, however tempting). At a concentration of 0.25%, you need to ingest around 20 grams of toothpaste per kilo of body weight to be worried. For an adult, that's about 1400 grams -call it 3 pounds- of toothpaste. Or more.For a six year old, maybe a pound.

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  3. B— It’s on there, but as you pointed out back-channel, it’s on non-fluoride toothpaste as well. (I checked). Anon—Eating a bunch of toothpaste is bad according to the things I looked up this morning regardless of fluoride content. Same warning on both. So my bad for direct quoting from X.All that said, the arguments for continuing to put fluoride in water can be equally spurious—one councilman indicated hat their teeth were so much better when they switched to fluoridated city water from the well water they grew up with. Which is a pile of crap because their teeth were already formed and the stated purpose was to help when teeth are forming. Which is also when brain damage happens. Still think it is unnecessary and the good does not outweigh the bad.

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  4. I hate to say it but everytime I hear or read something about fluoridated water my mind goes right to Dr. Strangelove.General Jack D. Ripper: Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Well, no, I can't say I have.General Jack D. Ripper: Vodka. That's what they drink, isn't it? Never water.Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Well, I believe that's what they drink, Jack. Yes.General Jack D. Ripper: On no account will a Commie ever drink water and not without good reason.Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Yes. I – I doubt quite see what you're getting at, Jack.General Jack D. Ripper: Water. That's what I'm getting at. Water.

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  5. “you’re supposed to call poison control ^^^because of the flouride.^^^”It's that part that isn't true. All toothpastes suggest calling a doctor or poison control if a kid ingests large amounts…..Fluoridated or not. Just 'cause you want it to be true doesn't mean it is.

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  6. Gerry–Forgot about that scene.B–I think I conceded that point when I said: 'Eating a bunch of toothpaste is bad according to the things I looked up this morning regardless of fluoride content. Same warning on both. So my bad for direct quoting from X.'

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  7. MC: Sorry, that was pointed towards “anonymous”.

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  8. You ever see a commie drink a glass of water?It's an incidious commie plot to Poison your vital bodily fluids. I only drink distilled water, or rainwater, and only pure grain alcohol.

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  9. Rainwater has low pH. Not good for you. Tom762

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  10. B–Okay. I think anon was just explaining about the doses needed to be poisoned by fluoride, separate from toothpaste.Doc B–Pure grain alcohol is probably safest.Tom 762–Indeed, it's on the acidic side.

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  11. I cannot verify, but I have read reports that the Germans added Fluoride to the water supply of concentration camps for the purpose of making the inmates more “docile”. Is their a correlation between the rise of homosexuality and Fluoride useage? Either way, I really don't want .gov added anything to drinking water.

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  12. Jeffery–Kind of makes sense. But yes, .gov doesn't need to be doing anything to drinking water except make it safe for consumption.

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  13. “If your kid accidentally swallows toothpaste”Whoever wrote that was lying. Just 'cause it's posted on the internet doesn't make it true. THe rest of the articles you posted are mostly correct, if biased

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  14. 'Course, you COULD go look on a tube of toothpaste. On which you will find an instruction that says if you swallow more than is usually used on a toothbrush, contact a poison control center or physician. So, as usual, the dose makes the poison- it depends on how much you swallow whether it's a problem or not. You're BOTH wrong!Just in passing- the LD50 for sodium fluoride is between 31 and 102 mg/kg (in rats, it's not ethical to poison kids, however tempting). At a concentration of 0.25%, you need to ingest around 20 grams of toothpaste per kilo of body weight to be worried. For an adult, that's about 1400 grams -call it 3 pounds- of toothpaste. Or more.For a six year old, maybe a pound.

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  15. B— It’s on there, but as you pointed out back-channel, it’s on non-fluoride toothpaste as well. (I checked). Anon—Eating a bunch of toothpaste is bad according to the things I looked up this morning regardless of fluoride content. Same warning on both. So my bad for direct quoting from X.All that said, the arguments for continuing to put fluoride in water can be equally spurious—one councilman indicated hat their teeth were so much better when they switched to fluoridated city water from the well water they grew up with. Which is a pile of crap because their teeth were already formed and the stated purpose was to help when teeth are forming. Which is also when brain damage happens. Still think it is unnecessary and the good does not outweigh the bad.

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  16. I hate to say it but everytime I hear or read something about fluoridated water my mind goes right to Dr. Strangelove.General Jack D. Ripper: Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Well, no, I can't say I have.General Jack D. Ripper: Vodka. That's what they drink, isn't it? Never water.Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Well, I believe that's what they drink, Jack. Yes.General Jack D. Ripper: On no account will a Commie ever drink water and not without good reason.Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Yes. I – I doubt quite see what you're getting at, Jack.General Jack D. Ripper: Water. That's what I'm getting at. Water.

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  17. “you’re supposed to call poison control ^^^because of the flouride.^^^”It's that part that isn't true. All toothpastes suggest calling a doctor or poison control if a kid ingests large amounts…..Fluoridated or not. Just 'cause you want it to be true doesn't mean it is.

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  18. Gerry–Forgot about that scene.B–I think I conceded that point when I said: 'Eating a bunch of toothpaste is bad according to the things I looked up this morning regardless of fluoride content. Same warning on both. So my bad for direct quoting from X.'

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  19. MC: Sorry, that was pointed towards “anonymous”.

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  20. You ever see a commie drink a glass of water?It's an incidious commie plot to Poison your vital bodily fluids. I only drink distilled water, or rainwater, and only pure grain alcohol.

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  21. Rainwater has low pH. Not good for you. Tom762

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  22. B–Okay. I think anon was just explaining about the doses needed to be poisoned by fluoride, separate from toothpaste.Doc B–Pure grain alcohol is probably safest.Tom 762–Indeed, it's on the acidic side.

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  23. I cannot verify, but I have read reports that the Germans added Fluoride to the water supply of concentration camps for the purpose of making the inmates more “docile”. Is their a correlation between the rise of homosexuality and Fluoride useage? Either way, I really don't want .gov added anything to drinking water.

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  24. Jeffery–Kind of makes sense. But yes, .gov doesn't need to be doing anything to drinking water except make it safe for consumption.

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