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Cultural Appropriation–the Flip Side

 Netflix is coming out with a new show–Queen Cleopatra.  But in the way of Netflix, they made her black, not Greek.

Surprisingly enough, they are getting some backlash, including an Egyptian lawyer bringing a lawsuit over ‘blackwashing’ history.

Zahi Hawass, the former Egyptian Antiquities Minister was beside himself.

Hawass commented on the movie, which sparked public criticism in Egypt for portraying the Ptolemaic Queen as black-skinned, saying: “This is completely fake.

Cleopatra was Greek, meaning that she was blonde, not black.”

Hawass added that in recent years a trend emerged, led by black Americans and blacks in South America, claiming that the Egyptian civilization is of black origin.

He stressed that such claims were completely false.

The black civilization has no connection with the Egyptian civilization, Hawass said, pointing out that the black civilization did not rule Egypt except in the twenty-fifth dynasty during the era of the Kingdom of Kush, i.e. at the end of the ancient Egyptian civilization.

 As the author at The American Thinker noted:

Incidentally, in order to get beyond the obvious objection — If modern-day Egyptians are not Black, how could their ancestors have been? — the cultural appropriators have long insisted that modern-day Egyptians “lightened up” following the seventh-century Arab conquest and comingling of Egypt.

In reality, according to recent DNA tests, it appears that, if anything, the opposite is true — ancient Egyptians were lighter, not darker, than their modern-day descendants.  Apparently the ancients looked more like Levantine peoples, Syrians, Lebanese, etc.

Change.org took down a petition with 80,000 signatures requesting that Netflix cancel the series due to ‘community guidelines’. 

I think I’ll take a pass.  I was and still am a fan of Egyptian history.  Netflix is either pandering, is ignorant, or both.



  1. Elizabeth Taylor will always be my Cleo……

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  2. she was Greek–that is according to history= white

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  3. Back when I was in college in the 70's she was Nubian or blackThen she was EgyptianNow Greek because her line started in 323 BC almost 300 years before her death?Me smells the BS.

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  4. Ignorance and inability to actually learn from history…

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  5. The Ptolemys were Macedonian Greeks, with their lineage recorded since the time of Alexander the Great . Facts count .

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  6. Matthew–I get it–she was awesome!Avraham–Yes!Gerry–All my books indicated she was Greek.NFO–Yep–it's wishful thinking on the part of American (including South American) blacks. Just because Egypt is on the African continent does not mean that the Egyptians were black.jerseygirlangie–Facts do count. This is part of the 1984 rewriting of history.

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  7. well , look at africa , its a dump. everywhere else there is architecture that is beautiful as well as functional on the dark continent ? Mud huts , that's the best they can do . Since they have little to no culture , and no accomplishments they have to rely on “stolen valor” Lots of “african Americans” think Wyconda is a real thing not something Stan Lee dreampt up . And they want to pretend Jesus , or Cleopatria were black so they feel better about having nothing of worth to lay claim to.

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  8. I stand corrected. The images of her on coins very greatly.

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  9. Ruggles–Egypt is a completely different place from the rest of the continent. Probably due to sea travel being available. And I agree with the rest of what you are saying as well–there is a lot of cultural appropriation going on.Gerry–They do!

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  10. Elizabeth Taylor will always be my Cleo……

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  11. she was Greek–that is according to history= white

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  12. Back when I was in college in the 70's she was Nubian or blackThen she was EgyptianNow Greek because her line started in 323 BC almost 300 years before her death?Me smells the BS.

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  13. Ignorance and inability to actually learn from history…

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  14. The Ptolemys were Macedonian Greeks, with their lineage recorded since the time of Alexander the Great . Facts count .

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  15. Matthew–I get it–she was awesome!Avraham–Yes!Gerry–All my books indicated she was Greek.NFO–Yep–it's wishful thinking on the part of American (including South American) blacks. Just because Egypt is on the African continent does not mean that the Egyptians were black.jerseygirlangie–Facts do count. This is part of the 1984 rewriting of history.

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  16. well , look at africa , its a dump. everywhere else there is architecture that is beautiful as well as functional on the dark continent ? Mud huts , that's the best they can do . Since they have little to no culture , and no accomplishments they have to rely on “stolen valor” Lots of “african Americans” think Wyconda is a real thing not something Stan Lee dreampt up . And they want to pretend Jesus , or Cleopatria were black so they feel better about having nothing of worth to lay claim to.

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  17. I stand corrected. The images of her on coins very greatly.

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  18. Ruggles–Egypt is a completely different place from the rest of the continent. Probably due to sea travel being available. And I agree with the rest of what you are saying as well–there is a lot of cultural appropriation going on.Gerry–They do!

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