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If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything

 I’ve been keeping an eye on the bills being signed by Governor Sports Metaphor (aka Holcomb in Indiana) and find it interesting what he hasn’t signed yet and what he’s outright vetoed.

What he hasn’t signed yet (among others):  Constitutional Carry (HEA 1296).  Keeping kids in the sports designated by biology (HEA 1041).

What he outright vetoed (the only one BTW): Oversight of executive branch by the legislative branch ((HEA 1211).  It also basically gives a time limit on ’emergency’ rules and orders.

A lot of people are going to be pissed off about the first two bills I mentioned either way it goes.

But here’s the thing.  If he’s worried about his next gig (he’s done as gov due to term limits), then he’s in the game for the wrong reasons.  As most politicians are.  Either have the balls to veto or have the balls to sign.  The ‘not signing’ option (where the bills are passed into law after seven days anyway) shows a lack of character and testicular fortitude.

As for his one veto–hopefully the legislature will override that since the executive branches after the last two years really need to be reined in. His reason for the veto was that it would slow down a broadband rollout–not because it 

would have required agencies to submit an emergency rule to the Indiana attorney general for review before it could take effect, and it would require an economic impact statement and explanation of any penalty associated with any proposed new rule to be submitted to state lawmakers. Agencies would also have to renew rules more often.

At least we know where he stands on a checks and balances system of government. 

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    I think any branch of government should be wary of another branch limiting their (legitimate) powers. That should be open to debate and discussions.

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    Matthew: you should read the bill before commenting.

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    Matthew-B is right. You need to read the bill http://iga.in.gov/legislative/2022/bills/house/1211Before now, something like this wasn't necessary, but once we have unelected bureaucrats making rules that have the force of law with no oversight or limitations, it's up to our elected officials to double check them. I'm also in favor of sunsets for rules or laws, which this bill also does.

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    Yeah, I read the link.It says that Bill “A” was submitted to the Governor with Bill “B” that had previously died in the legislative process added to Bill “A” at the last minute.. Hmmm, sound like the Legislature was trying to sneak something in.My first comment is valid.Sidebar:I hate “captha's””Click on all photos of tractors”Combines are not tractors.

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    Matthew–It's within the rules in the Indiana legislature. Unfortunately the rank and file have to take action if they are being stymied by the leadership. It's not interfering with the executive branch but is putting a checkpoint on some of their overreaching actions.

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    “It's within the rules”???????So??That makes it good?

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    Honestly that's not the point. There has to be a mechanism if one person blocks something that the rest of the rank and file want to do. Holcomb vetoed it. It's up to the legislature to now decide if it's important enough to override his veto. Putting the power into the executive departments has been a disaster and there needs to be a way to curtail that power and make them accountable to the people, which this does. The end does not justify the means, but there is precedence on both sides of using this methodology to get something onto the floor.

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    Interesting that he's refusing to act 'either' way…

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    It's a cop out and he won't get my vote for any other public office, but if they go into law anyway, I'm cool.

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    I think any branch of government should be wary of another branch limiting their (legitimate) powers. That should be open to debate and discussions.

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    Matthew: you should read the bill before commenting.

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    Matthew-B is right. You need to read the bill http://iga.in.gov/legislative/2022/bills/house/1211Before now, something like this wasn't necessary, but once we have unelected bureaucrats making rules that have the force of law with no oversight or limitations, it's up to our elected officials to double check them. I'm also in favor of sunsets for rules or laws, which this bill also does.

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    Yeah, I read the link.It says that Bill “A” was submitted to the Governor with Bill “B” that had previously died in the legislative process added to Bill “A” at the last minute.. Hmmm, sound like the Legislature was trying to sneak something in.My first comment is valid.Sidebar:I hate “captha's””Click on all photos of tractors”Combines are not tractors.

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    Matthew–It's within the rules in the Indiana legislature. Unfortunately the rank and file have to take action if they are being stymied by the leadership. It's not interfering with the executive branch but is putting a checkpoint on some of their overreaching actions.

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    “It's within the rules”???????So??That makes it good?

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    Honestly that's not the point. There has to be a mechanism if one person blocks something that the rest of the rank and file want to do. Holcomb vetoed it. It's up to the legislature to now decide if it's important enough to override his veto. Putting the power into the executive departments has been a disaster and there needs to be a way to curtail that power and make them accountable to the people, which this does. The end does not justify the means, but there is precedence on both sides of using this methodology to get something onto the floor.

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    Interesting that he's refusing to act 'either' way…

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    It's a cop out and he won't get my vote for any other public office, but if they go into law anyway, I'm cool.

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