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The Osage finally won….

 A wind farm in Oklahoma now gets to be dismantled.  The Osage have been fighting against Enel for 12 years about a wind farm that was put in against the wishes of the Osage Nation.

At the base of it was mineral rights as well as land rights.  That means that even though the company was able to lease PART of the land, when they started digging, then all bets were off.  But even though there were multiple notifications of a cease and desist nature, the company just ignored them.  It seems like they were going for a fait accompli as well as federal $$$.

Under the Osage Allotment Act of 1906, the tribe owns the rights to the minerals beneath the land it bought from the Cherokee Nation in the late 1800s. Those mineral rights include oil, natural gas, and the rocks that Enel mined and crushed for the wind project. By mining without permission, the company violated the tribe’s sovereignty. Choe-Graves concluded that Enel “failed to acquire a mining lease during or after construction, as well as after issuance of the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals’ decision holding that a mining lease was required” in 2017. She continued, saying the company’s “past and continued refusal to obtain a lease constitutes interference with the sovereignty of the Osage Nation and is sufficient to constitute irreparable injury.”

Daniels and other Osage tribal members opposed the project because of its potential intrusion on sacred burial sites, as well as the 420-foot-high turbines’ deadly impact on eagles. 

Eighty-four turbines are going to be removed.   $300 million just for the removal, plus damages to the Osage for Enel being assholes.

What a great way to start the New Year!



  1. The Osage should turn off their stoves and gather around a campfire like a hundred years ago then .

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  2. Victor—Windmills are crap for sustainable energy. And they aren’t fiscally viable. And they are destructive to wildlife. They should all come down. Do your research.

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  3. Is Enel gonna be forced to pay back the Federal construction Subsidy they got as well?

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  4. wind farms= bird murder

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  5. ONE wind turbine foundation requires as much concrete as is needed to build over 120 foundations for the average single family home in America.The concrete used to build 84 turbines could have built well over 10,000 foundations.That's just the foundation. Next are the structures, which use over 160 tons of steel, which is enough steel to build well over 140 average cars today.That doesn't even cover the fiberglas, resin, electrical, mechanical and other alloy components.So now we have it built. The maintenance yearly will consume hundreds of gallons of lubricant, dozens of spare parts and who knows how many man hours.There is no cost benefit to wind turbines; it's unobtainable. They will NEVER generate more energy in their lifespan than what was needed to build them to begin with.

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  6. Who says there's never any good news?- WDS

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  7. Not to mention, the rotor blades require replacement on a regular basis, they can’t be recycled, all that can be done is to store them…somewhere.

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  8. All of us should declare themselves Osage and convert their property to tribal lands and declare sovereignty and have their mineral rights and land rights restored. This what happens when you create corporations, They think they can do what they want and have the power to do it. There is no personal responsibility with the senior executives. Until you have to sue them in court.

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  9. And then the US Government would revert to its traditional approach to Indigenous Persons Occupying Valuable Land.

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  10. Anon 10:37: In regards to where to store those old/removed blades…Al Gore's ass first comes to mind.

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  11. B–Unfortunately probably not.Avraham–Yes they are.Don't mind me–Same with solar panels.WDS–Made my day. Need more of them to torn down.Anon–There's a windmill graveyard out west somewhere.Cederq–Unfortunately have to sue to make corporations do the right thing.Anon–Ironic, right?Peaowed–It's certainly big enough…

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  12. The Osage should turn off their stoves and gather around a campfire like a hundred years ago then .

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  13. Victor—Windmills are crap for sustainable energy. And they aren’t fiscally viable. And they are destructive to wildlife. They should all come down. Do your research.

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  14. Is Enel gonna be forced to pay back the Federal construction Subsidy they got as well?

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  15. wind farms= bird murder

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  16. ONE wind turbine foundation requires as much concrete as is needed to build over 120 foundations for the average single family home in America.The concrete used to build 84 turbines could have built well over 10,000 foundations.That's just the foundation. Next are the structures, which use over 160 tons of steel, which is enough steel to build well over 140 average cars today.That doesn't even cover the fiberglas, resin, electrical, mechanical and other alloy components.So now we have it built. The maintenance yearly will consume hundreds of gallons of lubricant, dozens of spare parts and who knows how many man hours.There is no cost benefit to wind turbines; it's unobtainable. They will NEVER generate more energy in their lifespan than what was needed to build them to begin with.

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  17. Who says there's never any good news?- WDS

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  18. Not to mention, the rotor blades require replacement on a regular basis, they can’t be recycled, all that can be done is to store them…somewhere.

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  19. All of us should declare themselves Osage and convert their property to tribal lands and declare sovereignty and have their mineral rights and land rights restored. This what happens when you create corporations, They think they can do what they want and have the power to do it. There is no personal responsibility with the senior executives. Until you have to sue them in court.

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  20. And then the US Government would revert to its traditional approach to Indigenous Persons Occupying Valuable Land.

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  21. Anon 10:37: In regards to where to store those old/removed blades…Al Gore's ass first comes to mind.

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  22. B–Unfortunately probably not.Avraham–Yes they are.Don't mind me–Same with solar panels.WDS–Made my day. Need more of them to torn down.Anon–There's a windmill graveyard out west somewhere.Cederq–Unfortunately have to sue to make corporations do the right thing.Anon–Ironic, right?Peaowed–It's certainly big enough…

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